You Can Bring a TRVer to Water, But You Can't Make Him Drink
by Kimberly Snow
Anyone who has been in the PSI TECH chat room for any length of time has heard of him. He's charming, witty, elusive, and intelligent. He drives an expensive sports car, lives in England, and has a way with the ladies that make most men green with envy. He gambles, plays the market like a pro, drinks champagne for breakfast, and can walk into any casino and know which machine will pay off before even dropping a quid. He has all the makings of a James Bond; only this gentleman has something James Bond doesn't have. This man can TRV. I'm talking about the infamous Jorge. (Name changed to protect the guilty)
Joni Dourif herself says of Jorge, "Jorge has something very unique that is optimal for TRVing. Not just a natural ability. He has a nonchalant aloofness about being wrong. So his attitude is optimum for fine tuning. He's not marred to results, and that's his greatest gift. So he senses his psi data much more clearly, by removing one big fat filter that most of us fight with. What we want versus what we get. Being wrong was just a glitch for him, not a huge traumatic thing. It was just an "Oh well, guess I won't do that again." Also, he is genuinely interested in how others think. Not so (contrary to what some might think) wrapped up in himself as much as others might be."
In a rare interview, I tried to discover how Jorge feels about TRV and life, and to find out what makes him tick. By the end of the interview, I was left with more questions than answers. And that's exactly the way he wanted it.
Snow: Jorge, how did you first find out about TRV?
Jorge: I first heard about it through Ed Dames on Art Bell. I didn't believe, but wanted to. I flew to LA and got training from Jonina. She took me under her wing and trained me. It was fun at the time. I didn't know if there was anything in it.
Snow: What were you interested in learning or using TRV for?
Jorge: I wanted to be rich because being poor is no fun. Predicting gambling events seemed like a good way to do it.
Snow: Do you think American's are spoiled? Are they any more spoiled than Englishmen?
Jorge: Yes. That comes with the US being a big country and having more competition. You get more goods for less. That's why you are all fat.
[Snow pauses to look at her hips]
Snow: How long into the training process did it take to convince you it was real?
Jorge: After the second day really. It was a session on the Pope. I got an out of control machine, but clearly the Pope was in charge of it. I got his funny hat. The Pope was a good man, and he thought he was doing the right thing. But he was in charge of this out of control machine. I blew one session once, but since then I have never gotten one wrong. I learned right from wrong.
Snow: Normally it takes a lot of mistakes for a TRVer to highly refine their skill. What things helped you to learn this skill without making so many mistakes?
Jorge: To stay focused and have a general idea of what you are doing. And the faith in the method you are using.
Snow: Did you ever think you would not be able to successfully learn TRV?
Jorge: I didn't think it would work. I just thought they were after the money. I think it's healthy to question stuff. If you believe in everything everyone says then you're a sucker.
Snow: What was your reaction when you realized this was for real? Did it change the way you looked at things?
Jorge: Not really. I did a demo session a few weeks later in front of a few people in San Francisco. The target was the Kursk. Maybe that affected me more than anything else.
Snow: In what way?
Jorge: Having to deal with the emotions. Imagine being trapped in a sub, knowing you are going to die.
Snow: Do you fear death?
Jorge: I don't think about it. Ask me questions about drink, gambling, and women. People like the badness. The psychic who has used his skills to bed dozens of women.
Snow: So did you take the course in LA?
Jorge: I was in Las Vegas getting drunk, so I flew to Los Angeles to see her as a friend. I knew predicting the future was real. Because I was making a living from playing roulette in casinos.
Snow: Did you use any techniques to refine your 'psi' sense before learning TRV?
Jorge: Yes. I practiced guessing a lot. Mainly in the casino but outside as well, like which way to go to find things. Maybe that just comes by trusting your intuition more than most people do.
Snow: How did you develop and find your natural perception for gambling?
Jorge: In my bedroom, practicing guessing at things. It took six months and hours a night before it became consistent. It is much harder when you play for real money because then the fear element comes into it, so you have to start learning again.
Snow: Do you consider yourself a natural psychic?
Jorge: Not in the New Age sense.
Snow: You like your women and drink. Did TRV help you in your endeavors to indulge in both?
Jorge: TRV helped fine tune what was already there.
Snow: So there were less slaps in the face and women threatening to kill you after TRV?
Jorge: More women after TRV. No threats though.
Snow: Have you told anyone about TRV? If so, what did they think about it? Was it time for the men in white coats, or did they just figure you were another weirdo?
Jorge: The only people I would talk about it to were the people who would come into the chatroom. They generally had an interest and a curiosity, or they wouldn't be there. I never spoke about it to anyone else really. Maybe I did in a passing way to family and friends but no preaching.
Snow: Did you find women were intrigued by your special skill?
Jorge: None of them knew it.
Snow: Did you ever mind probe any of them?
Jorge: I wouldn't mind the probing.
Snow: After you learned TRV, did you find that your abilities increased?
Jorge: TRV fine tuned existing skills in prediction, I'm sure of that.
Snow: Has anyone ever caught you or noticed you had an advantage with your skills, like some do with counting cards?
Jorge: They see me win things or guess things right, but they just think I'm lucky. I like it that way. If everyone could do it or knew about it I would have to do a crappy job!
Snow: You haven't been practicing TRV. Why did you stop?
Jorge: Because I'm lazy.
Snow: What was the most important thing you've learned from TRV?
Jorge: To stay in structure.
Snow: I mean, about reality.
Jorge: It has made me realize that the world isn't what we thought it was.
Snow: Can you elaborate?
Jorge: It's best if people learn for themselves.
Snow: You cheeky monkey. Not even a hint?
Jorge: It's something you need to experience yourself to understand. You will never really believe it works until you do it yourself. Then when you realize it does work, it opens your mind.
Snow: What's the most important thing in life?
Jorge: [Bedding women].
Snow: Can you state that another way?
Jorge: Interaction with others.
Snow: What would you say to people who say you are disgustingly self-indulgent? Do you find any remorse for it, or do you believe you are entitled to whatever you can get?
Jorge: I'll take the fifth on that one.
Snow: Has your lifestyle led you to find religion?
Jorge: Drinking and gambling didn't lead me to religion. Being poor and miserable did.
Snow: Have you ever done a session on your Optimum Mate?
Jorge: No. I'm frightened it might be a woman I know.
Snow: Aren't you more afraid of dying a lonely old man, with no one to feed you your medicine?
Jorge: Yes, but I would die a lonely old man after 20 years of [bedding women].
Snow: Have you ever used TRV to do an Optimum Trajectory?
Jorge: Yes, Jonina gave it to me once, in a practice session.
Snow: And what did you get?
Jorge: That I should live in London and sell things.
Snow: And is that what you do now?
Jorge: No, I live in Nottingham, and gamble
Snow: Why don't you go to London and sell things?
Jorge: Because London is a shit hole, and the Arabs will soon irradiate it.
Snow: So you would agree that Optimum Trajectories don't always sound like the most desirable course, because it's either hard work or brings out the fear-factor?
Jorge: Yes. I don't want to die. I'm not a sucker.
Snow: Have you done your OT recently? Because it may have changed by now.
Jorge: No I haven't. I'm enjoying my life at the moment, so I don't feel the need to change it or look for new things. Maybe I'm just lazy. But people don't want to read this. They want to hear about someone with shit loads of money earned from TRV, who spends it all on drink and hookers.
Snow: Is that you?
Jorge: I'll take the fifth on that.
Snow: So TRV has increased your winnings in gambling?
Jorge: Yes. And I have spent every penny from my debauched lifestyle on women and drink.
Snow: And has it been worth it?
Jorge: Oh yes.
Snow: Have you no shame?
Jorge: Caveat emptor. Let the buyer beware.
Snow: Have you gone back and trained more from PSI TECH, or have you all the tools you need right now?
Jorge: I haven't done anymore training. I tend to only do things that I feel need to be done. I'm lazy.
Snow: Do you really believe that TRV has helped you get women into your bed?
Jorge: Yes.
Snow: How? Will you reveal your secrets?
Jorge: No. I am selfish, a liar and a cheat, and I like myself, and that's all that matters to me.
Snow: Aren't you afraid that you'll be consumed in the hereafter, by fire and brimstone?
Jorge: Can things get worse then they are now for people? People don't want to hear about the doom. Ask me about the yachts and four women fighting over me.
Snow: Do you feel that you have any part to play in assisting humanity, or are you content to be a passer-by as long as you have enough to drink?
Jorge: The latter at the moment. But I'm young, maybe things will change in the future.
Snow: How do you think your life would be different if you had never learned to remote view? Would it be better or worse?
Jorge: My intuition would not have been as fine tuned as it is now, so I would say it would be worse.
Snow: What downsides have you found to being able to remote view?
Jorge: Other people asking me to do sessions and interviews, and threatening to cut off my body bits if I don't.
Snow: Did I do that? One more question. There are rumors that once you started TRVing, your psi-muscle became so honed that you can now walk by a slot machine at the casino and know it is going to win. Is this true?
At this point in the interview Jorge vanished. There would be no more interviews that day. Joni was quick to answer my last question however, stating that it was no rumor. She watched him do it several times. Of course, Joni said, after he won, she tried it and lost.
Alas, there can only be one Jorge. Perhaps we should lay all the rumors to rest once and for all, and make Jorge our next Target of the Week...
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